Dave Ramsey & The Envelope of Spite

    There were the sudden sleep withdrawals, the chest that was suddenly tasked with feeding a person, and the overall feeling of constant uncertainty hovering overhead. It was the basic slap-in-the-face stage every new parent goes through as they understand they know nothing and are meant to be responsible for everything. As millions of moms and dads navigated this road before us, we stocked up on nipple cream, learned to nap in three-minute increments while standing, and accepted that we were completely clueless all the time. True to the rules of evolution, the wandering Mom & Pop circus act adapted to new roles and sprouted legs where scaly tails once wagged.

      In retrospect the easiest part of adjusting to parenthood was the parenting itself. Long after we mastered the four-finger Burp Pat and witnessed The Boy Wonder’s  impressive range in urine-shooting, one elephant-sized obstacle stood in our way:

TWAS THAT MONEY, HONEY!

       So concerned with perfecting infant First Aid and the intricate folds of a swaddling blanket, I failed to recognize the blows my lifestyle would be dealt outside the realm of baby. At 9 months pregnant, the thought of leaving behind my fast-paced job in leasing was a dream. No more pantyhose in the blistering summer heat! No more lectures on why shooting illegal fireworks off a mid-level patio is not okay! No more high-pitched sales voice because people know you don’t mean it when you always answer the phone with “It’s the best day ever at _______. Super sunshiny sun and happy faces! Press 1 for glitter! Two for unicorns! Yes, I love my job THIS much!”.  Looking ahead to days without deadlines, bosses, and power suits filled my weary heart with hope. Hope and buoyancy, as I skipped from the office on my last day of work, snagging my Mondo Triple Huge pantyhose on any and every rough surface close by.

      Within a few weeks of my new life as a stay-at-home mom, the sting of a life without sleep started to fade. The Mister returned home from work one evening beaming as he pulled handfuls of white envelopes from his bag. He explained a concept for budgeting he’d picked up from Nashville-based financial guru, Dave Ramsey. The Envelope System, he continued, was a method of saving by spending only cash allotted to specifically labeled envelopes. I stared at the tiny packets sprawled across the kitchen counter. They ranged from Home to Food to Baby, Air, and Freedom, each envelope holding a set amount of cash that would come to be known as The Allowance.

    Despite my initial protests (Am I the lawn boy, now? Am I asking Daddy for an allowance because I made the bed?) I found I rather enjoyed the envelopes. I did, as Sir David Ramsey, Lord of Dollars & Sense promised, pay more attention to the money I spent on frivolous items. Forecasting what money was to be spent where was as easy as taking a gander in a freshly labeled envelope. Within a month, I’d become a Ramsey-fied prodigy of sorts, able to calculate our household expenses like a champ. Ah! But for the bump in the road to financial responsibility…

    Problems first arose when The Mister discovered my Free Love approach to The Envelope System. I discovered very quickly that some weeks I didn’t need to spend money on diapers so much as I needed additional money to purchase groceries or cleaning products. Because I am American and believe in equality, I let the Baby Envelope co-mingle and share with the Home Envelope. Some weeks the Car Envelope gave a little somethin’ somethin’ to the Food Envelope, who in turn swapped coins with the Misc. Envelope. What I deemed innovative finance genius at it’s finest, my order-thriving partner saw as a horrific monetary orgy of epic proportions.

   I was messing with the universe now. The skies might fall and our car might get repossessed and orphans in third-world countries would probably go without supper because I’d fetched a sinful buck from the wrong pouch. I’d changed that poor dollar’s fate, destined to sit in the cozy dark of a supermarket cash drawer and now forever demoted to the purgatory of a gas station register.

   True to my belief that it didn’t matter where the money was spent so long as our envelopes successfully covered our expenses, I forged ahead with daily outings to stores and paid from for services and products with the exactly wrong envelopes. I was proving a point, dammit, and it almost felt really good.

As I was sticking it to The Man, I couldn’t fight the sense that I was failing money. I wasn’t envelope-ing like a winner as clear in my partner’s disapproval of my willy-nilly technique. I was proving a point and feeling just awful about it.

    To lift my spirits I enjoyed a little alone time at a local nail salon. My gnarly, bottle scrubbing hands would get gussied up courtesy of The Wrong Envelopes. I was just thrilled enough with this little taste of  rebellion that I hardly growled when the manicurist scolded me for biting my nails. My cuticle was also “nasty”, she informed me as I refused to stop smiling in her general direction. Now freshly polished and feeling victorious, I used a dry thumb and index finger to pluck the envelopes from my purse. A fellow patron of the salon asked if I used Ramsey’s Envelope System to which I answered “Yes! It’s wonderful!” and really meant “These envelopes are interrupting my freedom“. With the ladies now focusing on my envelopes, I realized the social suicide about to take place. I paid for my pretty nails with money labelled FOOD and BABY. There was no mistaking the disgusted glances burning holes in my person. The nail salon, the county, and the world would believe I sacrificed money for groceries and diapers to get my beauty on.

The baby needs food. ALMOST as much as I need these French Tips.

    The drive home was a 10-minute trip through lands of guilt and shame. Perhaps my penny-pinching partner was right. I should have obeyed the Rules of Ramsey rather than confuse the natural ebb and flow of the fiscal universe.

Once home I sat at the kitchen table, defeated and ready to make a plea deal. The Mister and I discussed various ways to alter the budget so that I could live righteously with all my envelopes secure in their purpose. Several minutes passed and we came to the topic of the car. This was tricky, I explained to him, because I very seldom needed a lot of money for gas or maintenance but had grown accustomed to using leftover money from this envelope for other items like formula or wipes. Genuinely searching for a solution to this debacle, I asked him what he did with his envelopes in this type of situation. Prepare yourselves…

“Oh. I don’t use envelopes.”

   Let me tell you that doves sang. Well, first they migrated to Tennessee, landed gracefully on my stoop, and then they sang like a choir of aviary angels. My nails glistened a little brighter, my envelopes shed the filth of their tainted reputation and shone a glorious, heavenly white. It seems that while I waged mental warfare on myself, battled between buying a soda with the Home Envelope or leaving that spare dollar in it’s rightful place, my bottom-line partner treated himself to lattes and extra clothes and lunch out on the rogue wallet’s dime. Part boss. Part renegade. Total hypocrite.

    Today, we’ve leveled the playing field. Like taking turns to perform an infant Sleeper Hold in the wee hours of the morning, we share the load of a financial budget. I still let my wild envelopes roam on occasion, though not amidst the critical eyes of the nail salon. My lovely partner, seeing the injustice of it all, has adopted the envelope system for himself as well. It’s good to save. It’s better to watch a dude mentally distinguish which is more important: a latte or a pair of socks.

happily ever enveloping

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37 thoughts on “Dave Ramsey & The Envelope of Spite

  1. I just finished dave’s 13 week financial peace class…I’m still in prices of setting up my envelopes. I just hate having to carry around cash and I’m sure i will be one that borrows from other envelopes.

    • I NEVER carried cash before I started this envelope thing. I was a strict debit swiper all the way. I actually like using the cash because I definitely pay more attention to what I spend on little things (a soda here, a meal-out there) but I couldn’t stand having a bunch of different envelopes swimming around my purse. I normally just put all the cash in my wallet and try not to spend all of it before the next paycheck! Ramsey would be so ashamed haha!

  2. My ex mother-in-law used the envelope method of financial organization. This was of her own devising. She also saved styrofoam peanuts (enough to mail a large three piece sectional somewhere) and twist ties (enough so that if you tied them all together, you could tie one end to your front door knob, go anywhere in the world and always be able to find your way home). She was nothing if not prepared.

  3. My aunt uses a similar system which she refers to as compartments. They are different areas within her purse/wallet for different things. Her wallet looks like one of the coupon holders.

  4. Before we moved to Kansas which has sucked all extra funds out of our life, I used a one envelope system. That was the “fun” envelope, and the money in it was the limit of our play money for the month. It could be used for anything, but once it was gone it was gone. I should go back to that, if there is every any extra money to do it with.

  5. I kinda have this system however my check is directly deposited in the bank so I go in a move money around to savings accounts. I’ve got one for the house, one for bills and one for EXTRA…if there is any. Plus I always keep $150.00 in the checkings account for pop up things. So I know with each check how much needs to go where so everything gets payed on time. Works awesome!

  6. Great concept…in theory. But I can see the pitfalls of putting it into practice if you aren’t allowed to swap your dollar bills as you see fit. I never used to carry cash around either, but once I started hitting garage sales a few years ago I found it necessary. The thing I love about having cash in my wallet is, I’m far less likely to spend it! I tend to hoard it, whereas with a debit card, I just swipe it without a second thought. There’s something about seeing the money, touching it, holding it, fondling it…(strike that last part)…that makes me treasure and value it more.

  7. We kinda use Dave Ramsey’s ideas…loosely. We totally use the principles of not using credit and not getting into debt or buying things we truly cannot afford, but my husband is self-employed. Sometimes he gets paid, sometimes he doesn’t. Sometimes we have to wait a month for a job to pay out. Our envelopes sit empty. It’s a tough thing. I commend you on you envelope savvy. We are working on getting better at the envelopes. I heard someone in our area will be starting a class and I totally want to go.

    • It really is helpful. I just am far too bossy to be told what to do (particularly when The Dude wasn’t practicing what he preached). I still mix-and-match the envelopes because you never need the exact same amount of money for one thing every time you get paid, but it works enough that we don’t spend more than we mean to!

  8. Hahahaha! My favorite part is absolutely when he admits that he doesn’t use the envelopes. Oh gracious, good stuff. My husband is a big fan of Dave Ramsey. We don’t do the cash envelopes (we live in crime city, haha), but we are working hard to eliminate all our student debt! :)

    • Student debt is ROUGH. I still think that is the cruelest part of graduating. You’re all excited for a minute, feeling like a total grownup, and then someone sends you a giant bill. Yikes!

  9. I have heard of that envelope system and had thought of trying it here in our house…. But like you, I would need a BIG envelope each month…… actually, I would need a MANILA ENVELOPE…… or larger…. :)

  10. My sister swears by Ramsey’s system, but it sounds like you’ve out-Ramsey-ed Ramsey himself. Envelopes aside, I just wish I could get Sara to use anything other than the get-whatever-you-want-when-you-want system.
    Kathy

    • It was a BIG adjustment for me. I made enough money when I worked that I could pretty much splurge ( in moderation) when I felt like it. The idea of having to put actual thought into buying a pack of gum was kind of tough for me. The good news is, I know we are safe and sound financially now!

  11. Making the leap from separate paid employment to sort-of-paid, co-mingling partnership with Marty’s art business has been a huge adjustment for me. No envelope system (thank goodness- that sounds hard!), but there’s definitely a hierarchy of needs to be addressed when it comes to the cash flow. Numbers 1 and 2 on my Expense list are rent and groceries. Numbers 1 and 2 on Marty’s list are Bike Parts and Art Supplies. Oh dear…

    • Haha. The first week that The Dude used envelopes he was MISERABLE. He couldn’t fathom having to give up his daily meals out because they weren’t in the budget!

  12. Those envelopes would drive me nuts! We get cash every week and it has to cover all expenses that we don’t get a bill in the mail for. Once it’s gone, we’re done. We have been known to get a bail out from good ‘ol Mr. Credit Card, though. Shame on us!

    • I couldn’t stand using a million different envelopes so I just dump all the money in my wallet and know not to spend more than what’s in there. Makes sense to me!

    • Honestly, I go along with it because The Dude is really proud of his organizational systems and whatnot. I’m pretty good at budgeting without the million-and-a-half envelopes, but it makes him feel smart :)

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  14. I am incensed at your Mister – so not fair, dude! I love your take: part renegade, total hypocrite.
    I’m currently grappling with the idea of a budget, but am having trouble getting around to its implementation. Another ‘to-do’ on my long list.

    • The funny thing is, he really didn’t see how unfair it was until I put this statement on the table: “Every time you eat lunch out or buy a soda at a gas station or treat yourself to a pair of socks, what if you felt like I was breathing down your neck telling you it wasn’t in the bdget.” He backed up a little bit after that :)

  15. Kudos for attempting the envelope system. I hear it’s not as easy as it sounds. I’m sure it has helped a good number of people though.

    If I gave the system a try, I’d probably only need two: “Coffee” and “Other Junk.” A 50/50 income split would suffice, althouth I’m pretty sure I’d have to borrow from the coffee envelope every once in a while.

    • I think having fewer envelopes would’ve actually made the transition from no budget to crazy, all-cash budget a little easier. Having a million different envelopes made me always feel like I was about to run out of money as there was always, always at least two or three hiding at the bottom of my purse!

  16. Oh lord. We, too, have been infected by Lord Ramsey.

    But, we were paying for a wedding out of pocket & those suckers end up requiring a lot of money in places you least expect it. So we tried the envelope system & failed.

    Now the party is over, the champagne is emptied, and it’s time for business. Sigh. We even bought fancy Dave Ramsey Envelope System wallets. We haven’t gotten down to crazy cash distribution yet, but I’m already feeling the shudder.

    Alas, we – like most other 20-somethings – are saddled with more debt than we’d like and are trying to expand the family. Time to buckle down. Yeehaw.

    • Fancy envelopes! I got plain old white ones :(
      I actually like the envelope system now. It really will help cut down on those extra little purchases which adds up to big savings! I had a much easier time just putting my whole, 2 week “allowance” in my wallet (rather than seperate envelopes). With a kid, our expenses are different all the time. Some weeks you don’t need diapers but could use some extra cash for the car or the house or groceries. I just focused on staying within my WHOLE amount and not having to use the debit card because it was so much simpler that way!
      Good luck to you and know that it will get so much easier after a few weeks of getting used to it!

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